C64 Diagnose: Einleitung und Dokumente

Diagnose-Unterlagen

Hier liegen zwei Dokumente für den Service eines Commodore C64:

Welcome to Project 64!

The goal of Project 64 is to preserve Commodore 64 related documents
in electronic text format that might otherwise cease to exist with the
rapid advancement of computer technology and declining interest in 8-
bit computers on the part of the general population. If you would like
to help by converting C64 related hardcopy documents to electronic
texts please contact the manager of Project 64, Cris Berneburg, at
<74171.2136@compuserve.com>.

Extensive efforts were made to preserve the contents of the original
document. However, certain portions, such as diagrams, program
listings, and indexes may have been either altered or sacrificed due
to the limitations of plain vanilla text. Diagrams may have been
eliminated where ASCII-art was not feasible. Program listings may be
missing display codes where substitutions were not possible. Tables
of contents and indexes may have been changed from page number
references to section number references. Please accept our apologies
for these limitations, alterations, and possible omissions.

Document names are limited to the 8.3 file convention of DOS. The
first characters of the file name are an abbreviation of the original
document name. The version number of the etext follows next. After
that a letter may appear to indicate the particular source of the
document. Finally, the document is given a .TXT extension.

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C64 Diagnose: Problems I’ve repaired

  • BAS ROM or RAM U3. Pwr up: Title page — Char (garbage) „flash“ but

disappear (blank „page“)

  • PLA U17, KER ROM U4. Pwr up: No title page (blank raster)
  • VIC U19. Garbage screen but loads/runs pgm
  • RAM chip. All garbage screen — no load or run
  • OSC U30. After warmup TV loses horiz sync
  • Pwr supply. No +5V, raster — no title page — no pwr LED
  • C85, 47 [ ?? ]. Pix goes out of horiz hold after 4 hrs+
  • RAM chip. Garbage/flashing chars. Within 1/2 sec of pwr up — Bad

RAM IC (hot)

  • SID chip. Music player: note „hang up“ — „muddy“ sound
  • SID chip. Blown by shorting Audio-In after pwr up — Title page:

goes to garbage

  • U8 buffer. C-64 initializes drive at pwr up but „device not

present“ error

  • U17 PLA. Blank raster
  • U17 PLA. Intermittent cursor on opening screen … it will not move
  • U2 CIA. Semi-random „squares“ on screen at pwr up (no title page)

U2 in 64C. Was 8521RO, I subbed 6526A, works OK (Old IC got hot, too)

  • U17 PLA. „Rainbow“ effect on opening screen characters
  • 1 RAM (not hot!). „Out of memory error“ at pwr up instead of

opening screen

  • SID chip. Erratic mouse pointer, music: notes „hang up“, „muddy“

sound

  • U31 Clock Gen. Horiz way off freq. on monitor
  • U1 CIA. Partial pgm load or screen freeze after run a while, „5“

key repeats if held down, „flashing“ cursor

  • U17 PLA. Pgm crash — back to Basic screen, new chip bad!

End of the Project 64 etext of the Ray’s C-64 Problems Solved.


Various usenet articles about 1541 repair.


Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: 1541 Repair
From: Raymond Carlsen <rrcc@u.washington.edu>
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 17:35:56 -0700

> I have a 1541 that just spins forever when turned on. Both LED’s
> are on. Anyone have any pointers to repair info on this model?

Steve,

    That usually points to a bad DOS ROM chip. It's CBM # 901229-03

(old drives) or -05. A bad 6522 is also a possibility.

Ray Carlsen
CARLSEN ELECTRONICS… A leader in trailing-edge technology.


Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: 1541 Repair
From: Brian Heyboer <bjheyboer@space.honeywell.com>
Date: Wed, 05 Jun 1996 12:08:15 -0400

Steven J Tucker (dh395@cleveland.Freenet.Edu) wrote:

> I have a 1541 that just spins forever when turned on. Both LED’s
> are on. Anyone have any pointers to repair info on this model?

There are several things that can cause this, but the most common is a
bad 901229-05 ROM. The 6502, 6522, RAM, and a couple of the TTL chips
in the reset circuit can also cause it, pretty much in that order of
likelyhood, assuming it just „went bad“ and didn’t fail because of
something you did to it.


Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 06:54:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: Raymond Carlsen <rrcc@u.washington.edu>
To: Cris Berneburg <74171.2136@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: 1541 help!

> Well, I’ve done it again. I bought another 1541 drive that doesn’t
> work. The guy told me it was „out of alignment“. Needless to say, that
> was an understatement. So, I need some help trying to fix it.
>
> Here are the symptoms. When I power it on, the red and green LED’s
> both flicker on for about 1/4 of a second, then stay off. The drive
> motor spins constantly when powered on, and will not respond to
> commands. Do you why that is?

The power supply is probably failing. Note that the power indicator is
going out under load. Since the +12 volts runs the motors, try the +5v
line… bet you’ll find a bad bridge rectifier or flaky regulator.

Ray Carlsen
CARLSEN ELECTRONICS… A leader in trailing-edge technology.


From: <judd@merle.acns.nwu.edu>
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 09:27:35 -0500
To: 74171.2136@compuserve.com
Subject: Re: 1541 help!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston IL

In article <4p3vbp$s7i@dub-news-svc-4.compuserve.com> you write:
>Well, I’ve done it again. I bought another 1541 drive that doesn’t
>work. The guy told me it was „out of alignment“. Needless to say, that
>was an understatement. So, I need some help trying to fix it.
>
>Here are the symptoms. When I power it on, the red and green LED’s
>both flicker on for about 1/4 of a second, then stay off. The drive
>motor spins constantly when powered on, and will not respond to
>commands. Do you why that is?
>
>Here’s what I’ve tried to find out where the problem is. I swapped the
>main processor board with a working drive, and it seemed to power up
>OK. So I put the original, faulty board back in and tried swapping out
>chips. I replaced the 901229-05, 6502, both 6522’s, and the tiny
>EL7407-0284 chip with no posititve effect. No other chips in this
>drive have the chip sockets for easy replacement.
>
>901229-05 6502
> 6522 EL407-0284
> 6522
>
>If you know what the problem is or have some suggestions on what I
>could do to diagnose it, PLEASE! Thanks.
>
>——-
>Cris „PC-Geek“ Berneburg <74171.2136@compuserve.com>
>The Basic Bombardier, Manager of Project 64
>http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/pcgeek/
>PGP public key A1CE4355 available on keyservers
>

The LED flicker tells you immediately that there is a problem with
the power — they aren’t connected to anything else. Most likely
you have a blown rectifier. There are two of them, at the back
of the drive, and they look like this:

	  _____
	 /    |
	/     |
	|     |
	-------
	| | | |

That is, a notched square with four pins coming out of the bottom.
After you power up the drive, at least one of them (the smaller one)
will probably be hotter than blazes.

The fix: go to Radio Shack and buy a new, heftier one for $1 or so,
and solder it in. These are full-wave rectifiers of course.

-Steve

C64 Ersatz SID

Eine 100% vollwärtigen Ersatz des Soundchips im C64 gibt es z.Z nicht. Aber selbst die orig. Chips klingen alle etwas unterschiedlich 😉

Es gibt aber einen Ersatz auf ATmega88 Basis.

Stückliste: Part Value Device Package Library Sheet

  1. C1 100nF C2.5/2 C2.5-2 capacitor-wima 1
  2. DIL28 SID Socket DIL28 DIL28-6 ic-package 1
  3. IC1 MEGA88-PA MEGA88-PA DIL28-3 atmel 1
  4. OSC 32MHz QG5860 DIL14S crystal 1
  5. R1 1K R-EU_0204/7 0204/7 rcl 1
  6. R2 240K R-EU_0204/7 0204/7 rcl 1
  7. R3 1K R-EU_0204/7 0204/7 rcl 1
  8. R4 2K2 R-EU_0204/7 0204/7 rcl 1
  9. R5 4K7 R-EU_0204/7 0204/7 rcl 1

ZIP Archive mit Eagle-Dateien, Firmware HEX und Batchdatei zum Flashen mit Fuses:
SwinSID88.zip

Schaltplan:

Board:

Bild der Platine im C64 eingebaut:

C 64 Ersatz PLA

Die PLA im C64 ist ein Logikbaustein. Die Logikgleichungen wurden entschlüsselt und heute gibt es sowohl professionelle Nachbauten auf CPLD Basis (Retro-Donald Shop) als auch eine Simulation auf Basis eines 27C512 Eproms. Das hier verfügbare Layout ist zwar 2-seitig und könnte ohne Probleme auch 1-seitig geroutet werden, den meisten PCB Herstellern ist das aber inzwischen egal und sparen kann man dabei fast nichts mehr.

Eprom-Bin & Eagle Layout Dateien: Ersatz-PLA.zip

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